Yeah, their idea of class difference has always gotten to me- it's obvious that the town is more socioeconomically stratified than Veronica makes it out to be. Like, for instance, Weevil and his boys are clearly poorer than Veronica or Wallace, who seem fairly comfortably middle class. However, in a town of billionaires, I guess everything is kind of skewed. And despite Veronica's nice clothes and stuff, we do see, throughout the series, evidence of money troubles, including worries about her dad being able to put her through college. I think the revised statement about class should be that there's no upper middle class- nothing between the regular people and the superrich- and that's where the huge divide is.
Are you liking it, though, otherwise? Wait until at least episode 4 to make a real judgment- the first two episodes aren't nearly as good as the rest of the series, I swear.
I guess it's just because my family IS poor that that particular statement got to me so much. I mean, it's not like TV/movies are EVER any good at conveying true lower/middle class, and that generally doesn't bother me. And I can make allowances for Veronica because she's still young and she was probably born and raised in wealth, so anything less than a spacious mansion might seem super poor (plus, y'know, the surrounding circumstances are bound to make it all seem worse). But when her DAD said that, I wanted to shake him and be like "You have to eat BOXED macaroni and cheese?! Boo frickin' hoo!"
It also makes me wonder--are there NO other schools nearby? Seriously, I think if I was getting tormented (and RAPED) by these people, I'd at least change schools. Even if it meant a longer commute to school. But maybe she's just tougher than me. Or stupider. *cough*
Heh. That makes me sound like I hate the show. I don't, really. I'm kind of "meh" about the first few episodes, but I remembered what you said last night about not getting into it until about episode four and torrented the next couple episodes. Episode three should be done in a couple minutes. :)
Like I said, the true class divide is a little different than what Veronica makes it out to be. And what her dad said never bothered me too much, because most of the time when he talks about money problems, he's joking (the "lower middle class to which we aspire" comment, for instance), and other times he's just pointing out their difference from the crazy billionaires of the town (the macaroni and cheese). However, I also think her father does get a sense of being poorer, simply because losing the Sheriff's position has meant a definite drop in economic status for him in particular. They had to move out of their house, for instance, because they couldn't afford it. And there are problems- the main one being that PI work is so inconsistent. He has no set salary, so they could be living well one month and scrabbling to make ends meet the next. For a man used to a consistent police wage, that has to be tough. Plus, in other episodes, there are issues with them having no hot water, and, like I said, the college thing is a big, big issue. So they're not as poor as they claim in the first episode, but they're far from well-off, and the contrast between their status now and their status before Lilly's death would, I think, be enough to cause her father some angst.
Also, I think we are meant to understand that there are no other public schools nearby, and they certainly don't have enough money to send Veronica to private school. I don't know how other states work, but I know in New Jersey you pretty much have to go to the high school in your district- I couldn't have gone to any other free public high school, except the crap county-sponsored vocational school, if I'd wanted to. I've always assumed California is like that. And I think we're also meant to see that Veronica is a tough girl- and she would see leaving Neptune High as letting these jerks win. She gave up all her friends to stand proudly by her father, after all. She wants to be able to stay in Neptune and stick it out, no matter what, just like her father did.
December 3 2005, 17:06:32 UTC 6 years ago
Are you liking it, though, otherwise? Wait until at least episode 4 to make a real judgment- the first two episodes aren't nearly as good as the rest of the series, I swear.
December 4 2005, 00:37:39 UTC 6 years ago
It also makes me wonder--are there NO other schools nearby? Seriously, I think if I was getting tormented (and RAPED) by these people, I'd at least change schools. Even if it meant a longer commute to school. But maybe she's just tougher than me. Or stupider. *cough*
Heh. That makes me sound like I hate the show. I don't, really. I'm kind of "meh" about the first few episodes, but I remembered what you said last night about not getting into it until about episode four and torrented the next couple episodes. Episode three should be done in a couple minutes. :)
December 4 2005, 00:56:45 UTC 6 years ago
Also, I think we are meant to understand that there are no other public schools nearby, and they certainly don't have enough money to send Veronica to private school. I don't know how other states work, but I know in New Jersey you pretty much have to go to the high school in your district- I couldn't have gone to any other free public high school, except the crap county-sponsored vocational school, if I'd wanted to. I've always assumed California is like that. And I think we're also meant to see that Veronica is a tough girl- and she would see leaving Neptune High as letting these jerks win. She gave up all her friends to stand proudly by her father, after all. She wants to be able to stay in Neptune and stick it out, no matter what, just like her father did.